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Christian Leaders Betray Christ For World Peace

Posted by wordforit on April 20, 2008

By Paul Proctor

November 28, 2007


Once again, leaders from the so-called “church growth movement” are demonstrating for us the Hegelian Dialectic – that transformational Marxist process of compromise and consensus made famous by Georg William Friedreich Hegel which seeks to rid the world of its divisive absolutes in the interest of global peace and unity.

Here’s the formula: Thesis + Antithesis = Synthesis

The Christian Post reported the following in a November 23rd article titled, Christian Leaders Invite Muslims to Love God, Neighbors Together:

Christian leaders across denominational lines responded to the unprecedented open letter signed last month by 138 representative Muslim leaders with their own letter, calling on the two Abrahamic faiths to love God and neighbors together.

The key word here is “together.”

To begin with, nowhere in scripture are Christians instructed to unite with other religions and their deities to do anything. Such a plan doesn’t display a love for God at all, but only a disregard for Him and His only begotten Son.

Among other things, the dialectic process redefines “love” to mean tolerance instead of obedience, and calls Christianity and Islam “Abrahamic faiths” as if the two groups have some moral obligation to unite under a god of common ground.

“Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.” – James 4:4

The Bible is uncompromisingly clear on this issue both in 2nd Corinthians 6:14-17, where we are specifically commanded to not yoke ourselves with unbelievers, and again in Ephesians 5:11, where we are instructed to “have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness.”

Jesus Himself said: “He that is not with me is against me: and he that gathereth not with me scattereth.” (Matthew 12:30, Luke 11:23)

How then can Christians join Muslims to love God together and not be an abomination before Him? We’re talking about two entirely different “Gods” here – not the same God with differing names. And that’s the big lie hidden in this global agenda. By swapping love letters with Muslims, these “Christian leaders” endeavor to legitimize the illegitimate by setting aside the whole counsel of God for Results & Relationships.

Jesus Christ is not the Son of Allah; and to even imply that He is by claiming to love the same “God” as Muslims is not only being dangerously deceitful – it’s blasphemy!

But that’s what the Hegelian Dialectic does to the Christian faith – it unites opposites and enemies under a guise of goodness – all at the Lord’s expense; and that is and always has been the modus operandi of the “church growth movement” – to mingle the sheep with the goats until they are indistinguishable.

Christianity (thesis) + Islam (antithesis) = One World Religion (synthesis)

It should come as no surprise to the readers of my column [Paul Proctor] that two of the reported signers of this letter who “share the sentiments” of Muslim leaders are none other than pastors Rick Warren of Purpose Driven Life fame, and the seeker-sensitive Bill Hybels from Willow Creek Community Church.

The CP article went on to say:

“Peaceful relations between Muslims and Christians stand as one of the central challenges of this century, and perhaps of the whole present epoch,” wrote the Christian leaders.

I thought the Great Commission was our central challenge as Christians – to love God and our neighbor by faithfully and obediently proclaiming His Gospel – to preach the cross – to call sinners to repentance and faith for the forgiveness of sins through the shed blood of Jesus Christ!

Have we now abandoned that for an ecumenical Plan B to world peace?

“If we can achieve religious peace between these two religious communities, peace in the world will clearly be easier to attain.”

But Jesus said in Matthew 10:34, “Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword” which is the Word of God that divides us, not just from the strange fire of other religions, but oftentimes from our own beloved family members.

“For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.” – Matthew 10:35-36

Do Warren and Hybels believe the Bible or not?

You be the judge:

Christian leaders urged for an interfaith dialogue that moves beyond “polite” ecumenical talks between selected leaders. Instead, leaders of both faiths should hold dialogues to build relations that will “reshape” the two communities to “genuinely reflect our common love for God and for one another,” the Christian letter stated.

My, how this bunch loves to re-imagine, re-interpret, re-define, re-envision, re-invent, re-think and re-shape the world to suit them!

“Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls.” – Jeremiah 6:16a

You see, they’re not just seeking to shake hands with Muslims on the street, at work or in the grocery store – the objective here is to “hold dialogues to build relations.” That’s the dialectic process I referred to earlier that relieves participants of their divisive absolutes for a compromised collective conscience, resulting in a synthesis of spiritual beliefs that both can embrace together peacefully. (i.e., religious groupthink)

Why do they want to “hold dialogues to build relations?”

To “reshape the two communities” so as to “genuinely reflect our common love for God.”

Which “God” – theirs or ours?

And that’s what this is really all about – systematically merging the two faiths into one through the dialectic process – not merely finding “common ground” or “reflecting” a “common love for God,” but actually creating a common god for the common good.

Who stands to benefit from this?

The coming antichrist, of course.

Kind of gives a whole new meaning to the term “church growth movement,” doesn’t it?

In spite of their seemingly benevolent agenda, Jesus Christ came to offer peace with God – not peace with Allah.

“Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds” – 2nd John 1: 9-11

Related articles:

1. Christian Leaders Invite Muslims to Love God, Neighbors Together
2. A Christian Response to ‘A Common Word Between Us and You’
3. The Church of Common Ground
4. What Rick Warren Wants
5. Willow Creek Hegelian Dialectic & The New World Order
6. The Test of Faith

© 2007 Paul Proctor – All Rights Reserved

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Obama’s Muslim connection

Posted by wordforit on April 5, 2008

by Ted Belman

Source: NewsByUs

1. Obama’s father was a Muslim polygamist.

2. Obama’s stepfather was a Muslim.

3. In Indonesia he was registered in school as a Muslim.

4. Occasionally he went to the Mosque for prayers

5. He took religious classes and studied the Koran in Arabic.

Freedom’s Enemy reports

According to Tine Hahiyary, one of Obama’s teachers and the principal from 1971 through 1989, Barry actively took part in the Islamic religious lessons during his time at the school.  His teacher was named Maimunah and she lived in the Puncak area, the Cianjur Regency.

“I remembered that he had studied “mengaji” (recitation of the Quran)” Tine said.

Our guy in Jakarta writes: “The actual usage of the word ‘mengaji’ in Indonesian and Malaysian societies means the study of learning to recite the Quran in the Arabic language rather than the native tongue.  “Mengagi” is a word and a term that is accorded the highest value and status in the mindset of fundamentalist societies here in Southeast Asia.  To put it quite simply, ‘mengaji classes’ are not something that a non practicing or so-called moderate Muslim family would ever send their child to.

The Obama Campaign told the LA Times he wasn’t a “practicing Muslim.”


But his official website says:  “Obama Has Never Been A Muslim, And Is a Committed Christian” (11/12/2007)

In 2007, classmate Rony Amiris describes young Barry as enjoying playing football and marbles and of being a very devout Muslim. Amir said, “Barry was previously quite religious in Islam.

“We previously often asked him to the prayer room close to the house.  If he was wearing a sarong he looked funny,” said Rony.

Amiris now the manager of the Bank Mandiri, Jakarta, recently said, “Barry was previously quite religious in Islam.  His birth father, Barack Hussein Obama was a Muslim economist from Kenya.  Before marrying Ann Dunham, Hussein Obama was married to a woman from Kenya who had seven children.  All the relatives of Barry’s father were very devout Muslims”

Rony extrapolates further, that Obama at one point had to change his religion if he ever intended later to run for the office of President of the United States because America would never elect a Muslim to the be President of the United States

Also in 2007, Emirsyah Satar, CEO of Garuda Indonesia, was quoted as saying, “He (Obama) was often in the prayer room wearing a ‘sarong’, at that time.”

“He was quite religious in Islam but only after marrying Michelle, he changed his religion.”

6. His grandfather, after whom he was named Hussein, was one of the first Muslim converts in his village.

He “fiercely devoted to Islam.” He had at least 3 wives: Helima, who had no children, Akuma who gave birth to Sarah Obama, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. and Auma Obama.

“What your grandfather respected was strength—discipline.” Obama quoted his grandmother, Sarah, as telling him.  “This is also why he rejected the Christian religion.

“For a brief time, he converted, and even changed his name to Johnson.  But he could not understand such ideas as mercy towards your enemies, or that this man Jesus could wash away a man’s sins.”

“To your grandfather, this was foolish sentiment, something to comfort women,” she added.  “And so he converted to Islam—he thought its practices conformed more closely to his beliefs.”

Grandfather’s third wife was Sarah, the one often referred to by Obama as his “grandmother.” She is not a blood relative and describes herself as a lifelong Muslim.  “I am a strong believer of the Islamic faith,” she says.

In “Dreams,” he inadvertently sheds some light on his formative years and the political views of his mother, an anthropologist and Islamophile who hated America and subsequently goes native.

His grandmother who raised him in Honolulu and who he said he loved,is the one he accused of racism.  Now, the Chicago Tribune reports “the Obama campaign declined to make [his white grandmother] available.”

All because she is white and Barry Obama is a “black” candidate for president.

Although Obama claims Senior was an atheist, Senior was buried as a Muslim.

Obama Senior also had three sons by another woman who are all Muslim.

Obama’s family connections to Islam would endure, however. For example, his brother Roy opted for Islam over Christianity, as Obama recounted when describing his 1992 wedding.

“The person who made me proudest of all,” Obama wrote, “was Roy.  Actually, now we call him Abongo, his Luo name, for two years ago he decided to reassert his African heritage.  He converted to Islam, and has sworn off pork and tobacco and alcohol.”

Abongo “Roy” Obama is a Luo activist and a militant Muslim who argues that the black man must “liberate himself from the poisoning influences of European culture.” He urges his younger brother to embrace his African heritage.

In Kenya while he was a Senator, Obama stumped for his cousin, opposition leader Raila Odinga. Odinga is the son of Senior’s sister, a direct first cousin and nephew of Obama’s father.

August 29, 2007, Raila Odinga and Shiekh Abdullah Abdi, chairman of the National Muslim Leaders Forum of Kenya signed a MoU

Here is a summary on the agreement which was signed:

* It pledges the support of Kenyan Moslems for Raila’s election.  In return, as President of Kenya, Raila agrees to 14 actions, listed a) through n) on page two.

* Within 6 months re-write the Constitution of Kenya to recognize Shariah as the only true law sanctioned by the Holy Quran for Muslim declared regions.

* Within one year facilitate the establishment of a Shariah court in every Kenyan divisional headquarters.  [Note: everywhere in Kenya, not just in “Muslim declared regions.”]

* Popularize Islam, the only true religion… by ordering every primary school in Kenya in the regions to conduct daily Madrassa classes.


In an interview with the New York Times, published on April 30th, Maya Soetoro-Ng, Obama’s younger half sister, told the Times, “My whole family was Muslim, and most of the people I knew were Muslim.”

Obama describes describes his new found “Christian” faith as: (1) Suspicious of dogma (2) Without any monopoly on the truth (3) Nontransferable to others (4) Infused with a big healthy dose of doubt, and (5) Indulgent of and compatible with all other religions.

Muslims view Obama as first a Muslim and then as an apostate Muslim.  He faces the death penalty in nearly the entire Islamic world.

On February 27th, Barack Hussein Obama said the Muslim call to prayer is “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth.”

In an interview with Nicholas Kristof, published in The New York Times, Obama recited the Muslim call to prayer, the Adhan, “with a first-class [Arabic] accent.”

The opening lines of the Adhan (Azaan) is the Shahada:

“Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!

Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!

I witness that there is no god but Allah

I witness that there is no god but Allah

I witness that Muhammad is his prophet… “

According to Islamic scholars, reciting the Shahada, the Muslim declaration of faith, makes one a Muslim.  This simple yet profound statement expresses a Muslim’s complete acceptance of, and total commitment to, the message of Islam.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia blog, written by an American who has lived in Indonesia for 20 years and has met with both the Taliban and al-Qaeda, contains the following:

“Barack Hussein Obama might have convinced some Americans that he is no longer a Muslim, but so far he has not convinced many in the world’s most populous Muslim country who still see him as a Muslim and a crusader for Islam and world peace.”

“Barack Hussein Obama’s race, his staunch opposition to the war in Iraq, his sympathy to Islam and Muslims worldwide and his Muslim heritage receive the Indonesian media coverage.  There is no mention of his apostasy.”

“A good example of how some of the Indonesian media is reporting on Obama’s religion can be found in the following.”

“What I found interesting in the article was the use of the word ‘mengaku’ when refering to Obama’s conversion from Islam to Christianity.  The word ‘mengaku’ in Indonesian means “claimed” and as such leaves the insinuation to the native Indonesian reader being that Obama might actually still be a Muslim.

But this is how Indonesians see Obama, they don’t see him as an apostate at all, they see him as a crusader for the cause of Islam.”

On Feb 15/08 Usama K. Dakdok, President of The Straight Way of Grace Ministry called Obama’s Church I then asked her what I needed to do to join.  She told me that I needed to attend two Sunday School classes in a row and then I would walk the aisle. I replied, “That sounds easy.  One last question please.  IF I AM MUSLIM AND I BELIEVE IN PROPHET MOHAMMED, PEACE BE UPON HIM AND I ALSO BELIEVE IN JESUS, PEACE BE UPON HIM, DO I HAVE TO GIVE UP MY ISLAMIC FAITH TO BE A MEMBER IN YOUR CHURCH?”

SHE ANSWERED, “NO.  WE HAVE MANY MUSLIM MEMBERS IN OUR CHURCH.” It is important to note that Muslims would not attend church.


Pastor Wright is an Islamophile and visited Kadafi with Farrakhan.

Obama’s foreign policy favours accommodation to Islam

1 He surrounded himself with advisers who believe that US foreign policy is controlled by Jews and this must end.

2. Obama plans to organize a Muslim summit

3. Obama Defends Columbia’s Ahmadinejad Invite

4. Obama: I Would Still Meet With Ahmadinejad

5.  Obama: Don’t Stay in Iraq Over Genocide

6. Barack Obama Would Let Shoaib Choudhury Die

7. “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds change in an ugly direction”. BARACK OBAMA from The Audacity Of Hope which is titled in Indonesia “Jihad: From Jakarta To The Whitehouse”?

8. Obama’s Nation of Islam Staffers

9. Obama Served On Board That Funded Pro-Palestinian Group

10. Obama – Rezko – Auchi – Saddam Hussein?

11. Obama’s Church Gives Platform to Hamas Terrorists, Questions Israel’s Legitimacy

Ted Belman- Israpundit

E-mail tedbel@rogers.com


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Jihad Against West Well-Entrenched, Author Says

Posted by wordforit on April 3, 2008

By: Josiah Ryan


Radical Muslims engaged in holy war — jihadis — are waging a worldwide campaign to advance their goals, particularly in moderate Arab states, in Russia, and in the liberal democracies of the West, according to Walid Phares, author of “The Confrontation: Winning the War Against Future Jihad.”

Phares, in a recent lecture at the conservative Heritage Foundation, said the jihadis’ international campaign should not be seen as a hodgepodge reaction to Western foreign policy but as a structured and well-organized movement.

For instance, Phares said that extremist Muslims have successfully engaged in the war of ideas and penetrated the educational and policy centers of Western democracies.

“Jihadis have inserted into the Western education system tens of millions of dollars in campuses, think tanks, and beyond,” said Phares. “That has created a systemic change that created one or two generations of analysts and experts who impact decision-makers who did not see the threat coming because they were under the influence of the money.”

Islamic scholar Imad-ad-Dean Ahmad, founder and president of the libertarian think tank Minaret of Freedom, said Phares’s notion of a highly organized, structured campaign to penetrate the policy processes of free countries is not accurate. The radical Islamist movement, in Ahmad’s view, is scattered and is motivated by Western foreign policies that are perceived as meddling in Islamic affairs.

“I am not aware of any evidence to support” the Phares’s claims, said Ahmad. “If he means there are people with extreme views in American think tanks and colleges, then, of course, that’s true. But a suggestion that there is some sort of conspiracy to affect American policy is silly.”

The problem is foreign policy and dictatorial regimes in the Middle East, said Ahmad. “Violent extremism in Islam is absolutely a reaction to American foreign policy and intervention from other powers like France,” he said. “Radical Islam has become a problem for the world because it has been nurtured by the existence of occupations and foreign meddling.”

Phares told Cybercast News Service it would be a mistake to view the jihad movement as a random or disorganized response to the West’s foreign policies.

“We are not dealing with a mere reaction to foreign policy,” he said. “It cannot be defined as such. The global jihad movement has a doctrine and world vision.”

“It is sui generis, born of a vision,” said Phares. “This is absolutely clear if you can see it. You have to see it. Though we don’t see clearly the nervous system of the Muslim brotherhood or Al Qaeda, for example, we do see the organization in their network. We see the organization even though we don’t see the actual center.”

Ahmed agreed that jihadis communicate with each other and do so effectively. “But my knowledge is that it is a network rather than an organization,” he said. “I think people who have done detailed studies support this idea.”

In addition to being an author, Phares is a senior fellow and a director of the Future Terrorism Department at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, teaches at the National Defense University.

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